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Hi all
Is it possible to show personal titles (like Dr., MBc., Ing., ...) in contacts or in incoming call info?

In Anglo-Saxon countries the usual greeting is "Hi Carol". But in European countries more usual is greeting by title like "Good morning, Mr. Doctor" or "Good afternoon, Mrs. Engineer".
But there is not easy to me to remember all titles to all of more than tousands contacts.
Is it possible to show personal title near the contact.

Actually there is possible to show "Title" in the meaning of "Job position". But for me there is more important to show personal title than job position.

How to do it? Can you help me?

Thanks

title is title
and it is included ...
title will also translated in germany to position.

this is standard og EAS (exchange server)

Hi Camel

The incomprehension is caused probably due to I do not have english version of Outlook and am not able to describe fields I want to see in DW Contacts.

There is field in Outlook Contact near the Company name that can be named in english like "Function" or "Job position" and that is usually filled with texts like "CEO", "IT manager", "Director" and so on. This field is shown in DW Contacts, when I check the check box named "Title". The contacts are ordered by this field, when I touch the "Titles" buttom at the bottom of the application.

And there is field in Outlook Contact near the personal info (like Name, Surname) and that is probably named Title. Here are usually texts like "Dr.", "Bc.", "MBA",... And this field is not shown in any fields of DW Contacts. Nor when I will see personal details, details of contact.
I can see it only when I edit the contact - then I can see Title, Name, Surname,... (in this order).
And this Title is, what I could see in contacts list, in contact which is shown at incoming call during phone ringing.

Do you understand me?

Vladimir

I have tried to switch my phone to english and german languages and:
- the field you are writing about is named "Job title" (in english) or "Beruf" (in german)
- the field I could see in contacts and I am writing about is named "Name prefix" (in english) or "Namenspräfix" (in german)

Vladimir

ads wrote:I have tried to switch my phone to english and german languages and:
- the field you are writing about is named "Job title" (in english) or "Beruf" (in german)
- the field I could see in contacts and I am writing about is named "Name prefix" (in english) or "Beruf" (in german)

Vladimir

i have here a EAS comptabible server(EGW), and tested with a real editor: "Contact Editor Pro" (you will find it in google market)

11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] ImportMessageChange: Object 11111 Class synccontact Flags=0
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] ImportMessageChange: Whole message changed
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O <Perform>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O <Modify>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O <ServerEntryId>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O 11111
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O </ServerEntryId>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O <Data>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O <POOMCONTACTS:BusinessCountry>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O ÖSTERREICH
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O </POOMCONTACTS:BusinessCountry>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O <POOMCONTACTS:CompanyName>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O 5ORGANIZATION
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O </POOMCONTACTS:CompanyName>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O <POOMCONTACTS:Department>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O 1Abteilung
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O </POOMCONTACTS:Department>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O <POOMCONTACTS:FileAs>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O 1nachname, 1Vorname (5ORGANIZATION)
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O </POOMCONTACTS:FileAs>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O <POOMCONTACTS:FirstName>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O 1Vorname
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O </POOMCONTACTS:FirstName>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O <POOMCONTACTS:JobTitle>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O titel
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O </POOMCONTACTS:JobTitle>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O <POOMCONTACTS:LastName>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O 1nachname
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O </POOMCONTACTS:LastName>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O <POOMCONTACTS:MiddleName>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O 1ZweiterVorname
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O </POOMCONTACTS:MiddleName>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O <POOMCONTACTS:OfficeLocation>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O Raum
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O </POOMCONTACTS:OfficeLocation>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O <POOMCONTACTS:Suffix>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O 1zusatz
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O </POOMCONTACTS:Suffix>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O <POOMCONTACTS:Title>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O 1Anrede
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O </POOMCONTACTS:Title>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O <POOMCONTACTS:Picture>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O </POOMCONTACTS:Picture>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O <POOMCONTACTS:Categories>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O <POOMCONTACTS:Category>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O Adressbuch persönlich
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O </POOMCONTACTS:Category>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O <POOMCONTACTS:Category>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O Adressbuch persönlich
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O </POOMCONTACTS:Category>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O </POOMCONTACTS:Categories>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O <AirSyncBase:Body>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O <AirSyncBase:Type>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O 1
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O </AirSyncBase:Type>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O <AirSyncBase:EstimatedDataSize>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O 12
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O </AirSyncBase:EstimatedDataSize>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O <AirSyncBase:Data>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O Testcccccccc
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O </AirSyncBase:Data>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O </AirSyncBase:Body>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O </Data>
11/25/11 23:15:23 [5549] O </Modify>


hmm, seems to be, that this is really confusing me ...
seems to be "anrede" should be the correct "title" ... hmm, it is something strange in android definition it is different ...
strange ...
i must try to ask google ...

i will take care of it ..

anyhow ...

"TITLE" is now "POSITION"

the real titlte should be the "prefix" from android
this is the academic title -> like: "doctor" or "master of business"

could it be, that something is strange ?
or can we make an option, that "TITLE and POSITION can be changed ?
or should we correct it ? or add another tab ?
hmm, we should discuss this, how we should addthis - or only use it for search tab ...
or, the easiest way ... we can change the tab to "position", and rewrite the text to position, too
and then will be the next question: do we need an extra tab for the real title (in android it is called "prefix")

cu camel

i verified that again ...
and switch to english, tested on eas server,google server,contact editor, etc ...

so, in my mind:
title does not exist on android:

PREFIX (or TITEL or ANREDE or PRÄFIX - in EAS:title)
so: PREFIX (in german there is the "title")
(now not supported by DWC)

POSITION (or ABTEILUNG or POSITION in EAS:JobTitle" of a person.
(now supported by DWC as "title")

so, i suggest, that we change in DWc this now to "POSITION"
and on future version, we can add support for field "PREFIX" (this will cost much more memory,but is possible)
we can add an option to support it or not ...so user can descide if they want it ..

cu camel

I think nobody will want to sort by Name Prefix (like "Doctor") and also the tab named "Prefix" will be obsolete.

What I have meant was that it could be nice to show this Prefix together with name. Not only "John Doe", but together with Prefix: "Doctor John Doe" or "John Doe, Doctor".

Vladimir

ads wrote:I think nobody will want to sort by Name Prefix (like "Doctor") and also the tab named "Prefix" will be obsolete.

What I have meant was that it could be nice to show this Prefix together with name. Not only "John Doe", but together with Prefix: "Doctor John Doe" or "John Doe, Doctor".

Vladimir

does this really make sense ?
well, i don't think, that this would make sense, because then it woul
then it would be sorted as
bernd
daniela
doctor a
doctor b
doctor c
doctor d
heinz
franz

on the other side, is there enough room to show in 1 line the prefix, too ?

"John Doe, Doctor" or "Doe, John, Doctor" make sense ...
i will set it on my list ...

thanks for idea ...

cu camel

Unlike Americans we do not use greetings with names (like "Hi Carol",...) but we use Surname in greetings, like "Good morning Mr. Doe" or "Good afternoon doctor Smith".
Due to this we prefer sorting by Surname. So my contacts look now like:
Doe Carol
Doe George
Doe John
Smith Jane
Smith John

When there should be prepended titles, the list should still remain sorted by Surname, like:
Doe Carol
MBA Doe George
Dr. Doe John
Smith Jane
Mr. Smith John
exactly the same as in Outlook

And in this case it does not matter I will not see name (more important for me is to see title and surname). And in case of my friend, I will not have titles filled and then I will see only surname and name, like in normal case in actual version of DWc.

Another possibility is to not show titles in contact lists (this is not so important). The title could be shown only in contact details and (more important) in the info shown on screen when phone is ringing. To be able to read caller title and correctly greet the caller "Good morning Dr. Doe".

Actually there is possible to select to show Organization, Group, Contact Note and Group Picture in Incoming Call View of DWc (in Background Service Settings), so there it would be fine to have possibility to select also Title to show in Incoming Call View.

Vladimir

ads wrote:Unlike Americans we do not use greetings with names (like "Hi Carol",...) but we use Surname in greetings, like "Good morning Mr. Doe" or "Good afternoon doctor Smith".
Due to this we prefer sorting by Surname. So my contacts look now like:
Doe Carol
Doe George
Doe John
Smith Jane
Smith John

When there should be prepended titles, the list should still remain sorted by Surname, like:
Doe Carol
MBA Doe George
Dr. Doe John
Smith Jane
Mr. Smith John
exactly the same as in Outlook

in outlook is a little bit more space for displaying contacts name.
on small screen we must use: <firstname> <lastname>, <prefix> OR <lastname>, <firstname>, <prefix>
(because important for sort and for quick-jump)

ads wrote: And in this case it does not matter I will not see name (more important for me is to see title and surname). And in case of my friend, I will not have titles filled and then I will see only surname and name, like in normal case in actual version of DWc.

if wanted you can change the font size smaller to see, then the full name, if it is too long.
much users are having many friends whicha are having a prefix, is not important to know. if you have a doctor,then you need the surename.

ads wrote:Another possibility is to not show titles in contact lists (this is not so important). The title could be shown only in contact details and (more important) in the info shown on screen when phone is ringing. To be able to read caller title and correctly greet the caller "Good morning Dr. Doe".

to show it on "contact viewer" <- this is system related and can'T handle by DWC, because contact viewing is a stock function.
using prefix on different other functions, too.
yes, this is why i know it is not so easy to implement this, because if we add this,we must also think about:
variable for predefined messages (ex: birthday greetings, appointment, incomming call, etc ...) and a lot of new options for prefix to disable/enable and so on ...

ads wrote: Actually there is possible to select to show Organization, Group, Contact Note and Group Picture in Incoming Call View of DWc (in Background Service Settings), so there it would be fine to have possibility to select also Title to show in Incoming Call View.
Vladimir

as told, i will keep it in my mind ...for future version (or better it is in my list, if you look into the plannings for future version -under "general" (there are plannings for suffix and prefix)

cu camel

the TITLE is defined in android ... so we will let the name as it is ...

String COMPANY DATA1
int TYPE DATA2 Allowed values are:

TYPE_CUSTOM. Put the actual type in LABEL.
TYPE_WORK
TYPE_OTHER

String LABEL DATA3
String TITLE DATA4
String DEPARTMENT DATA5
String JOB_DESCRIPTION DATA6
String SYMBOL DATA7
String PHONETIC_NAME DATA8
String OFFICE_LOCATION DATA9
String PHONETIC_NAME_STYLE DATA10